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Robert W. GehlWhat search engines are people using these days?For the past decade I've used Startpage or DuckDuckGo. I stopped using Google a long time ago. (Yes, I know SP uses Google results; please don't explain that to me.)I'm searching for covers of books for slides. In the past, I'd do an image search, in quotes, for the book title. Boom, there are cover images.Today, no matter what I do, I see loads of obviously SEO-tainted results.Is this just the case across the board now?<a href="https://aoir.social/tags/searchEngines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchEngines</a>

Hyde 📷 🖋 :debian:This week we have <a href="https://polymaths.social/@amin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@amin</a> for the <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/OverUnder" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OverUnder</a> 012! His views on the following topics:- <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/Libraries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Libraries</a> - <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/severance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#severance</a> - <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/searchEngines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchEngines</a> - <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/MassSurveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MassSurveillance</a> - <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/Curry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Curry</a> <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/blog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#blog</a> <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#web</a> <a href="https://lazybear.social/tags/100DaysToOffload" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#100DaysToOffload</a> : 040/100<a href="https://lazybea.rs/ovr-012" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://lazybea.rs/ovr-012</a>

FreeSchool = W🔁rk T🔁gether☑<a href="https://mastodon.cloud/@corruptian" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@corruptian</a> Another post with more opinion and not much as specific or backup to <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/reasoning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#reasoning</a>. But I respect your <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/opinion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opinion</a>.Maybe to finish here in something different to more of the same, try to balance your opinion with something a bit more concrete / <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/specific" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#specific</a> or personally clear, like ...❓ ➡️ Point to some better examples / sites please?❓ ➡️ Say why you care about <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/searchengines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchengines</a> so much or if Wikipedia is top since that's how people find the homepages which sometimes don't do well to get top or want to play into <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Google</a> / etc <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/monopoly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#monopoly</a> etc (they let Wikipedia etc do the work for them)❓ ➡️ Say how it impacts your own life directly❓ ➡️ How do you <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/measure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#measure</a> <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Wikipedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wikipedia</a> as an authority? Yes some might treat it as a definitive source or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/bible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bible</a> of <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/knowledge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#knowledge</a> but it can be refuted or <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/discussed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#discussed</a> based on the <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/source" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#source</a> of each <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/sentence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sentence</a> (almost each is attributed to somewhere else).But just opinions will mostly not be clear to as to what bits you mean and where it can be better etc... while accepting nothing should be considered that perfect but general guide if you're looking for things of <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/fact" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fact</a> and <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/reference" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#reference</a> with <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/links" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#links</a> to more elsewhere...

readbeanicecream<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Yorkshiregeek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Yorkshiregeek</a> This is the best <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/lifehack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#lifehack</a> for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/searchengines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchengines</a> I have seen all week. All my f#@%ing searches with have mother f#@%ing swear words in the f#@%ing query from now on.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/searchengine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchengine</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ai</a>

Calishat<a href="https://researchbuzz.masto.host/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Google</a> <a href="https://researchbuzz.masto.host/tags/SearchEngines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SearchEngines</a> <a href="https://researchbuzz.masto.host/tags/WebSearch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebSearch</a> <a href="https://researchbuzz.masto.host/tags/hubris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hubris</a> "A new profile of Elizabeth Reid, the head of Google Search, confirms that Google is moving away from its longstanding model of sending its users to websites. As one former unnamed senior executive put it: 'Giving traffic to publisher sites is kind of a necessary evil.'" <a href="https://searchengineland.com/google-traffic-publishers-necessary-evil-453562" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://searchengineland.com/google-traffic-publishers-necessary-evil-453562</a>

ResearchBuzz: Firehose404 Media: Google and Amazon AI Say Hitler’s Mein Kampf Is ‘a True Work of Art’. “Google’s featured snippet is pulling in an Amazon AI summary of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi manifesto Mein Kampf that calls it ‘a true work of art’ in the latest AI-related fuckup affecting top search results.”<a href="https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/24/404-media-google-and-amazon-ai-say-hitlers-mein-kampf-is-a-true-work-of-art/" class="" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/24/404-media-google-and-amazon-ai-say-hitlers-mein-kampf-is-a-true-work-of-art/</a>

ResearchBuzz: FirehoseAFP: AI startup Perplexity confirms interest to buy TikTok. “Artificial intelligence (AI) startup Perplexity on Friday expressed its interest in buying TikTok, which faces a deadline to divest from its Chinese owner or be banned in the United States. Perplexity in a blog post laid out a vision for integrating its AI-powered internet search capabilities with the popular video-snippet sharing […]<a href="https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/23/afp-ai-startup-perplexity-confirms-interest-to-buy-tiktok/" class="" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/23/afp-ai-startup-perplexity-confirms-interest-to-buy-tiktok/</a>

WolfeThe best option was wrong 37% of the time, the worst 94% of the time.Study Finds That AI Search Engines Are Wrong an Astounding Proportion of the Time <a href="https://futurism.com/study-ai-search-wrong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://futurism.com/study-ai-search-wrong</a> <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ai</a> <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/seo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#seo</a> <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/searchengines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchengines</a>

Mrco<a href="https://mastodon.social/@danie10" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@danie10</a> Something came in to my mind: When <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/searchengines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchengines</a> do not list results from <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#peertube</a> it is no surprise, that people don't find that content! I don´t know about others, but I'm using <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/qwant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#qwant</a> since long now and they don't. I just messaged them via their contact form about that. Don't know, if anybody ever really thought about that. Wondering, if <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Qwant" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Qwant</a> is official... ^^

WinbuzzerAnthropic Expands Claude with Web Search, Challenging AI-Powered Search Rivals<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GenAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GenAI</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AISearch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AISearch</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ClaudeAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClaudeAI</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Anthropic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Anthropic</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AIAssistant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AIAssistant</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WebSearch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebSearch</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SearchEngines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SearchEngines</a><a href="https://winbuzzer.com/2025/03/20/anthropic-expands-claude-with-web-search-challenging-ai-powered-search-rivals-xcxwbn/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://winbuzzer.com/2025/03/20/anthropic-expands-claude-with-web-search-challenging-ai-powered-search-rivals-xcxwbn/</a>

ResearchBuzz: FirehoseSearch Engine Roundtable: Google Tests AI Overviews In Middle Of Search Results Page. UGH. “Google is testing moving the AI Overviews from the top position of the search results page (also known as position zero), to the middle of the search results page. We saw Google test this with featured snippets over the years, so it makes sense Google would test this with AI Overviews.”<a href="https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/20/search-engine-roundtable-google-tests-ai-overviews-in-middle-of-search-results-page/" class="" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/20/search-engine-roundtable-google-tests-ai-overviews-in-middle-of-search-results-page/</a>

ResearchBuzz: FirehoseSearch Engine Journal: Google Expands AI Overviews To Thousands More Health Queries. “Google is expanding AI overviews to ‘thousands more health topics,’ per an announcement at the company’s health-focused ‘The Check Up’ event. The event included developments spanning research, wearable technology, and medical records.”<a href="https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/20/search-engine-journal-google-expands-ai-overviews-to-thousands-more-health-queries/" class="" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/20/search-engine-journal-google-expands-ai-overviews-to-thousands-more-health-queries/</a>

ResearchBuzz: FirehoseThe Verge: Google Search charged with breaking EU antitrust rules. “Google is breaking European antitrust laws by favoring its own Shopping, Hotels, and Flights search services over rival comparison providers, according to the European Commission. The EU announced in its preliminary ruling today that Google’s parent company, Alphabet, had also violated anti-steering rules under the Digital […]<a href="https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/20/the-verge-google-search-charged-with-breaking-eu-antitrust-rules/" class="" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/20/the-verge-google-search-charged-with-breaking-eu-antitrust-rules/</a>

Paul R. Pival (he/him)New blog post: Using ChatGPT to keep up on the news is like using a potato to commute to work. <a href="https://distlib.blogs.com/distlib/2025/03/using-chatgpt-to-keep-up-on-the-news-is-like-using-a-potato-to-commute-to-work.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://distlib.blogs.com/distlib/2025/03/using-chatgpt-to-keep-up-on-the-news-is-like-using-a-potato-to-commute-to-work.html</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Downes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Downes</a> <a href="https://glammr.us/tags/distlib" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#distlib</a> <a href="https://glammr.us/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> <a href="https://glammr.us/tags/SearchEngines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SearchEngines</a> <a href="https://glammr.us/tags/News" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#News</a>

ResearchBuzz: FirehoseSearch Engine Land: As AI scraping surges, AI search traffic fails to follow: Report. “AI-powered search engines (e.g., OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Perplexity) are failing to drive meaningful traffic to publishers while their web scraping activities increase. That’s one big takeaway from a recent report from TollBit, a platform that says it helps publishers monetize their content.”<a href="https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/18/as-ai-scraping-surges-ai-search-traffic-fails-to-follow-report-search-engine-land-2/" class="" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/18/as-ai-scraping-surges-ai-search-traffic-fails-to-follow-report-search-engine-land-2/</a>

Bob 🇨🇦🇲🇽🇺🇦<a href="https://futurism.com/study-ai-search-wrong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://futurism.com/study-ai-search-wrong</a><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ai</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/searchengines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchengines</a>

Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:<a href="https://graz.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/Search" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Search</a> Has A Citation Problem <a href="https://www.cjr.org/tow_center/we-compared-eight-ai-search-engines-theyre-all-bad-at-citing-news.php" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.cjr.org/tow_center/we-compared-eight-ai-search-engines-theyre-all-bad-at-citing-news.php</a>"We Compared Eight AI <a href="https://graz.social/tags/SearchEngines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SearchEngines</a>. They’re All Bad at Citing <a href="https://graz.social/tags/News" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#News</a>."<a href="https://graz.social/tags/Perplexity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Perplexity</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/ChatGPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatGPT</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/Grok" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Grok</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/gemini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#gemini</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/Deepseek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Deepseek</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/CoPilot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CoPilot</a> <a href="https://graz.social/tags/algorithms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#algorithms</a>

Total Sonic MediaThis is going to create more disinfo problems, for sure. <a href="https://www.cjr.org/tow_center/we-compared-eight-ai-search-engines-theyre-all-bad-at-citing-news.php" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.cjr.org/tow_center/we-compared-eight-ai-search-engines-theyre-all-bad-at-citing-news.php</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ai</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/chatgpt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chatgpt</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/copilot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#copilot</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/searchengines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchengines</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fakenews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fakenews</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/disinfo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#disinfo</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/hallucinations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hallucinations</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeepSeek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeepSeek</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/llm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#llm</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/llms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#llms</a>

ResearchBuzz: FirehoseSearch Engine Land: As AI scraping surges, AI search traffic fails to follow: Report. “Google’s average search click-through rate (CTR) was 8.63%, according to the report. However, the CTR for AI search engines was 0.74% and 0.33% CTR for AI chatbots. That means AI search sends 91% fewer referrals and chatbots send 96% less than traditional search.”<a href="https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/13/as-ai-scraping-surges-ai-search-traffic-fails-to-follow-report-search-engine-land/" class="" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbfirehose.com/2025/03/13/as-ai-scraping-surges-ai-search-traffic-fails-to-follow-report-search-engine-land/</a>

lfa :emacs: :tux: :freebsd:When you use a search engine nowadays:9 things you should know about.... 5 habits you should .... 3 things you didn't know about... 8 steps to.... 6 gifts for ... The 10 (name your product) of 20xxHoly crap! I really miss the altavista and astalavista days. (I also miss people who know how to count beyond 10).<a href="https://hostux.social/tags/rant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rant</a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#internet</a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/www" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#www</a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/searchengines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#searchengines</a>

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